this is at a time when we have china with its massive force expansion, building a world capable force projection capability. we have the russians modernizing the russian forces. we still have the iranian problem totally unresolved, north korea always a flashpoint. look at the middle east. anything far from being settled there. and let me take that navy as an example, which will be illustrative of the other forces and what itwill do to the navy. it will take the vy and drive it down to the smallest force it has had since prior to world war one. not world war ii lou. world war one. lou: you know, i'm sorry, admiral. when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make light of that. how important is it? can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going downto 220 ships. to put that number in perspective, i ha 2505 ships under my command in the pacific fleet's. 20 percent ofthose 220 ships